The Jaredites were beekeepers to some extent (Ether 2:3). And Secondly, the last Jaredite date which can be placed somewhere between ~570 BC when the Old World Migrants arrived and ~180 BC when the move to Zarahemla took place. “Moroni used Ether’s account of the Jaredites to teach lessons and give warnings to his readers, particularly the future occupants of his homeland—the Jaredite and Nephite promised land, today called America. "And I take mine account from the twenty and four plates which were found by the people of Limhi, which is called the Book of Ether." A later date for the Jaredites would have to explain how this coexistence occurred thousands of years after horses were supposed to have been extinct. This was just at the beginning of the birth of agriculture and civilization, so there weren’t many other options. This does not necessarily mean that the Jaredites brought these animals with them overseas, but coming from 8,000-BC Anatolia, it is possible that the Jaredites could have had domesticated goats and sheep, or at least early forms of these creatures in the beginning stages of domestication. The Valley of Nimrod. Do all the names in the Jaredite king list contain Sumerian roots, or does it seem to start after a certain point? The Jaredites along with 22 other families landed in what was later called the "Land Northward" during the time of the building of the "great tower." One thing that critics claim is evidence of the Book of Mormon being a forgery is the story of the Jaredites coming from the Tower of Babel. And how much easier would it be for his writings to be undecipherable 10,000 years later rather than 4,500 years later (had he lived in 2600 BC)? God, I think, is more mindful than we usually believe Him to be. Evidence for domesticated sheep at least 9,500 years ago has been discovered at a site in–you guessed it–Turkey. Sep 2, 2016 - Explore Ricardo Garcia's board "Jaredites and the giants in America" on Pinterest. They were led to the Americas, by God, at the time of the Tower of Babel. Obviously he couldn’t receive a real endowment in a fake temple from a monolithic god. Agriculture in the Fertile Crescent began around the same time. Big Bang, Evolution, Dinosaurs, and Joseph Smith. Some time after a devastating famine, a “descendant of Heth” named Shez picks up the pieces and establishes a kingdom (Ether 10:1-2). Interestingly, the Folsom’s main area appears to have stretched roughly from the Great Salt Lake (the Rocky Mountains) to the Mississippi River, and from the Great Lakes to Northern Mexico. Maybe Noah’s flood was local and was a result of the ending Ice Age? Sumerian roots can be found in many Jaredite names–which is to be expected if the great tower was in Mesopotamia around 2600 BC. This of course, predates a Jaredite departure date of 2600 BC by centuries. The place where the near-10,000-year-old crystal-hunting evidence was found is on the Oberalpstock mountain in the Swiss Alps. But around 8,000-10,000 BC, hunter-gatherers were just beginning to start farming, and the world’s first temple had only recently been built. According to scientists, none of these megafauna survived much after 10 ka. Completely agree with your timeline, all though some points i disagree with mainly the points about the lord and Jesus Christ, those seem fanciful. The word Mulekite, after Mulek, is commonly used to refer to his group. Wouldn’t have the people at the Tower of Babel been aware of their ancestor Noah and the great flood that brought him to a new land? In fact, one of the candidate sights for earliest goat domestication is the Euphrates river valley at Nevali Çori, just about an hour’s car ride away from Gobekli Tepe. If these places are indeed what’s being described in the Book of Abraham, then Olishem, Ur, and Haran all lie in southern Turkey, and are all likely within about 100 miles of Gobekli Tepe. Another historian puts out different theories of who came to South America before Lehi's time and after. There are four commonly proposed. 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Watch as Wayne May presents the parallels in geography, archaeology and timelines between the Jaredites and the Adena Civilization of North America. » Jaredites In North America | The products (services) offered by Wayne May are neither made, provided, approved nor endorsed by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Moroni explained he was abridging the record of the people “in this north country,” the area where he lived in western New York. The Jaredites crossed the sea to the New World in eight "barges" in 344 days, driven by currents and winds. While there have been mighty hunters throughout all stages of human history, at the time of the building of Gobekli Tepe around 10,000 BC until its abandonment close to 8,000 BC, all people were hunter-gatherers. It appears to me that the Lord deals with the brother of Jared in very simple, almost primary-like terms. Archaeologists believe that bees were domesticated around 9,000 years ago in Turkey. Therefore, the idea of confounding languages and scattering people from “the great tower” could actually work if said tower was Gobekli Tepe–but it doesn’t work so well if it was a ziggurat in 2600 BC. The Book of Mormon does not say that the entire land northward resides in land occupied by the United States of America. Now, remember—this is just a hypothesis. Besides this grain, they’ve also found evidence of emmer, barley, pistachios, and almonds at the site. He merely tells him to pray, and to serve him upon the promised land. Most North American tribes relied upon a calendar of 13 months, relating to the annual number of lunar cycles. A Gobekli-Jaredite time-frame puts the Jaredites closer to the heyday of wild horses in America (pun intended), and is therefore more likely. So let’s get into this and explore the possibilities. Helaman 8:18 says that before Abraham, there were lots of people called after the order of the Son, “that it should be shown unto the people, a great many thousand years before his coming, that even redemption should come unto them.” Although this verse is up for interpretation, “a great many thousand years” sounds like much more than the mere 4 thousand or less we generally assign to Adam, Enoch, and Noah. Moroni’s America Today In 1936, when LDS scholars first began accepting the two-Cumorah theory, Apostle Joseph Fielding Smith warned the Saints.,+G%C3%B6bekli+Tepe,+Haliliye%2F%C5%9Eanl%C4%B1urfa,+Turkey/Gazibey,+Neval%C4%B1+%C3%87ori,+63340+Hilvan%2F%C5%9Eanl%C4%B1urfa,+Turkey/@37.342594,38.5032199,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x15346502fe912231:0x24d422700430381a!2m2!1d38.9214!2d37.2232601!1m5!1m1!1s0x15337c497f1c2935:0xbbbcadcfeffb7602!2m2!1d38.6055556!2d37.5183333!3e0,,,,,,,–fisheries-archaeology-forskningno/on-the-track-of-the-worlds-first-farmer/1448265,,,,,’s_First_Known_Written_Word_at_Gobekli_Tepe_on_T-Shaped_Pillar_18_Means_God,,,Egypt%20at%20around%203200%20BC,, Scholars have identified a region in southern Turkey as a strong candidate for the land called Olishem in the Book of Abraham (Abr. The brother of Jared didn’t even know that he had to pray often, much less daily, like you and I know, because he was just a beginner at this stuff. I tried to support my claims as well as I could, so I’d be happy to hear your arguments against them. I don’t know, but viewing the beginnings of the Jaredite story in an older time period makes the Lord’s promise of a land better than all others even more powerful, in my opinion. Wikipedia: Bighorn sheep "crossed to North America over the Bering land bridge" Bighorn sheep were native to North America at the time the the Jaredites arrived. some instances say “son” in one place, but “descendant” in another), it’s because of these discrepancies that we cannot know for certain how much time passed between ancestor and descendant or supposed father and son. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account.,when%20modern%20Homo%20sapiens%20evolved. Could it have been Nimrod, the “mighty” hunter-gatherer, who took the lead among the hunter-gatherers to construct the first temple of the world, Gobekli Tepe? It’s a wild speculation, but moving a giant ice chunk “mountain” seems more likely than an ordinary mountain made of rocks. This of course, would be much easier to accomplish if the brother of Jared lived 10 ka rather than 4.5 ka. Where’s the “extraordinary proof” that American mammoths or mastodons survived in Mesoamerica as late as 4,000 years ago? Crystal, Glass, and Diamond Worlds of Fire. But mostly it was the Lord leading the little group from behind a cloud, showing them where to go next (Ether 2:4). The Lord promises the brother of Jared that He will make of the Jaredites the greatest nation on earth (Ether 1:43). If Nimrod established Ur, built the great tower, and had a valley named after him just north of the tower (Ether 2:1), then it’s likely that Ur is also close to the tower. (I’ll be writing a post about this soon–we like to talk about Noah’s flood on this blog). ( Log Out /  The 344 Day Voyage of the Jaredites The river SIDON Scriptural IQ Test . 2:4. Ether 1:16 calls Aaron a “descendant” of Heth, whereas Ether 10:31 says Heth “begat” Aaron, implying Aaron was the son of Heth. The Jaredites. 0 0. 1500 to 300 B.C. Their route is unknown. And this leads me to ask the question: Were the Jaredites farther back in history than we think, and was their “great tower” not based on a ziggurat at all? Scientists have actually found evidence for people 9.5 ka climbing high mountains to retrieve crystals, just like the brother of Jared did. The book of Ether records the Lord commanding the Jaredites “that they should go forth into the wilderness, … into that quarter where there never had man been” (Ether 2:5). The title page of the Book of Mormon gives a reason for the inclusion of the Book of Ether in Mormon’s abridgement: “[T]o show unto the remnant of the house of Israel what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers; … And also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that JESUS is the CHRIST, the ETERNAL GOD, manifesting himself unto all nations.” Although the term “remnant” here may refer only to the post-Nephite-destruction Lamanites–who likely had some Jaredite ancestors–it could be referring to the other branches of the House of Israel scattered all over the globe (see 2 Nephi 21:11-12). 6. Including us, all three groups occupy the promised land.,is%20being%20studied%20by%20paleontologists. Their route is unknown. Perhaps this “mount” Zerin was actually a glacier or iceberg that stood in their way, and the brother of Jared moved it out of their path with his faith? Also, a date for the departure of the Jaredites is never given. In Hebrew, the word for tower could also be used for hill. Of course, it’s all speculation, so take it with a grain of salt; but here is my case that the Jaredites are far more ancient than we think. (It is well established that Mastodons and other megafauna went extinct in North America at about 8,000 BC.) 5. 2. Perhaps this is why the Lord had to explain, “Seest thou that ye are created after mine own image? The Jaredites are widely believed to have landed in (or at least occupied at some point) Mexico, and soon after their arrival we’re told they “began to till the earth” (Ether 6:13). Kinda like trying to build a Unified Theory of History using gobble-dee-goop. I started this blog to take a middle road between the “Church is true so science is false” people and the “science is true so the Church is false” people; to provide new ways to look at things. Here it is: The Jaredites came not from the mythical “tower of Babel” around 2600 BC, but from the historical Gobekli Tepe between 12,000 and 10,000 years ago (10,000-8,000 BC). If the Jaredites came from Gobekli Tepe, it’s possible that they spoke an ancestor language to Luwian. 5. What jumps out most to me is that the brother of Jared possibly forgets to pray for 4 years! A big question for the Jaredites is what plausible currents or winds could help them reach America from what many presume is south Asia. Therefore, one could argue that Joseph Smith was perhaps aware to some degree that things recorded in the Bible may have taken place far earlier and far closer to home than we typically suppose. Yes, He reveals Himself and shows a graduate-degree-level vision of complete human history to the brother of Jared, but he treats him like a child. And remember that in the beginning of the book of Ether, Moroni says, “I give not the full account, but a part of the account I give, from the tower down until they were destroyed” (Ether 1:5); and at the conclusion he says, “[T]he hundredth part [of Ether’s record] I have not written” (Ether 15:33), admitting that he was doing some very heavy abridging to a very large story. In fact, there are depictions of the very same catastrophic comet strike 12.8 ka on pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe. The Jaredites are a people described in the book of Ether (see Book of Mormon: Book of Ether) whose name derives from their first leader, Jared. South America Cordillera The mention of elephants and other extinct animals, along with the obvious fact that the Book of Mormon tells us the Jaredites were the first inhabitants of this continent is the most striking evidence for our correlated timeline which correlates the early pre-dearth Jaredites with North American paleo Indians living prior to the end of the ice age. The idea that all people on earth spoke the same language in 2600 BC is frankly ridiculous–this is a big reason why the Tower of Babel is labeled a myth. On at least one of the massive stone pillars at Gobekli Tepe are mysterious carvings that look somewhat like handbags.,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The place from whence the Jaredites came is only referred to as “the great tower” or “the tower” (Mosiah 28:17, Hel. They were led by Jared and his brother (Mohonri Moriancumer), and the group included family and friends of Jared and his brother. While Sumerian doesn’t seem to descend from Luwian, is it at all possible that roots of the Gobekli language survived the millennia and made its way into Sumerian? There are 2 dominant ancient cultures in the Ohio River Valley area: Hopewell 300 BC – 400 AD Adena 1500 BC – 200 BC The date ranges vary some depending on the source. <> Being ancient hunter-gatherers, they probably believed that the gods were unembodied spirits that looked like animals (perhaps like the animals carved into the pillars at Gobekli Tepe); or that deities were giant, T-shaped, pillar-like humanoids with weird, blank, or bull-like faces (like the massive stone pillars at Gobekli Tepe). Goats were thought to first be domesticated in Turkey around 10,000 years ago. This especially could have been an extinct giant bison, Bison antiquus, that roamed the plains of America and was hunted by humans around 10,000 years ago. It would’ve been a major event in their family history. Was it a strong wind that also helped to bury it? This puts it in the realm of the Adena civilization who were present in the area at this time. The person who believes Phoenicians/North Africans came to South America believes these people came at about the time Lehi and party arrived, possibly earlier. But now we have to wonder, how did a symbol from the 10-12 thousand year-old temple in Turkey end up in 3000-year-old Olmec art in Mexico? Touch These Stones That They May Shine. Brigid O' … 20 Reasons why the Book of Mormon is a Historical Match in North America. From what I can gather, the hunter-gatherers who built Gobekli Tepe likely believed in a very different type of deity than we Latter-day Saints do. 1. Why couldn’t the brother of Jared have scribbled or drawn something that had meaning to him? Interestingly, scientists have recently discovered that a symbol on the “belt” of one of these pillars actually means “God”. All of North and South America, which comes. If there were symbols that meant things at Gobekli Tepe, then the brother of Jared could have also written symbols to represent his vision. One source says “the Indo-European branch of languages can be traced both to Anatolia and to a timeframe which overlaps with the aceramic Neolithic era.” Another source identifies the ancestor of many languages to be in Anatolia around 9 ka, so it is possible that many of the world’s languages can trace their origins to the temple at Gobekli Tepe. Is the Tower of Babel myth based on an actual temple built several thousand years ago? But on a quiet, secluded mountain in the presence of Jesus Christ, he could. Taking all this into account, could it help support an ancient, 10 ka date for the Jaredite journey? from Mormon apocryphal tradition. Joseph Smith championed the conjecture of Josiah Priest and noted explorer Alexander Von Humboldt in the “idea of their [certain ancient peoples Joseph Smith affirms were Jaredites] coming immediately from the region of the tower of Babel … If Noah’s flood happened 11,600-12,800 years ago, then it’s reasonable that the basis for the Tower of Babel myth happened 10-12 thousand years ago. When the temple was built, this valley would have been very lush, with all sorts of wildlife and game. A similar handbag carving has been found in Olmec stone art in La Venta, Mexico that dates to somewhere between 1200-400 BC. I love convoluted theories that try to make sense of all the conflicting stuff in the Book of Mormon. But it makes so much more sense if Ur, Olishem, and Haran were closer to the original great tower, Gobekli Tepe. While this stuff likely isn’t evidence left by the ancient prophet himself, it does show that these things happened close to the time of Gobekli Tepe. What Went Down When “the System of Astronomy Was Unfolded”? See more ideas about giants, ancient aliens, mystery of history. Yea, even all men were created in the beginning after mine own image.”. Joseph Smith, commenting on Miller’s prediction in 1843, said that Miller was wrong–not because of his method of calculation, but because of the errors in the Bible on which he based his calculation. Timeline Chronology for the Jaredite culture from the Book of Ether in the Book of Mormon. If the Jaredites left the great tower close to 8,000 BC or earlier, they likely wouldn’t have had the technology to build boats with sails, since nobody else in the world had the technology either. “Because of this theory,” he wrote, “some members of the Church have become confused and greatly disturbed in their faith in the Book of Mormon.” Obviously, if the Jaredites arrived in the Americas around 8,000 BC, that means that Adam probably couldn’t have lived in 4,000 BC, contrary to popular belief. I do believe that the Book of Mormon is true, that the Jaredites were a real group of people, and that their story actually began at a great tower somewhere. Yes, the brother of Jared goes “at the head of” the party into to the valley (Ether 1:42), spoke with Jesus face-to-face (Ether 3:20), and was tasked with building barges and obtaining light (Ether 2:16, 25). The Assyrian Empire. If this theory is true, and the Jaredites left Gobekli Tepe around 10,000 years ago, then we have to ditch the notion that Adam lived in 4,000 BC. In North America scholars have given them the … On the other hand, it is possible that the cattle here refers to bison, which belong to the same family (Bovidae) as the cattle we think of today. North America, for example, has 474 indigenous species of mammals, 11 and Mesoamerica has a large majority of these species within its borders. Everybody just kind of pitches in and works for the success of the tribe—man or woman. He explains that he “knew not that the Lord had flesh and blood.” It makes you wonder what he expected the Lord to look like. The notes are numbered to correspond with the 37 points above. The Traditional View. Large and Mighty Jaredites. (Although we should note we don’t know where the Jaredites left from nor their path) Note he also did this journey unexperienced in ocean travel.,Introduction,years%20ago)%20%5B1%5D. Like I said, I am open to other suggestions. The land of the nephites and the Jaredites is north and south america. However, a glyph on the walls of Gobekli Tepe has been linked to a symbol found in later Anatolian cultures to mean “God”; and we are still unsure what the animals and T-shaped pillars were meant to represent. I don’t know if Phelps was right, but the Folsom tradition provides an archaeologically-known group of people in North America that coincides in time and place with the proposed Gobekli-Jaredites, especially if they arrived in the great lakes area, as Joseph Smith said. Perhaps coincidentally, the North Pacific current takes about the same time to cross from Japan to Mexico (Sorenson, p. 111). As I said (perhaps not very clearly) in point #25 above, there was definitely one symbol carved into a pillar at Gobekli Tepe–some 12,000 years ago or so–that we know means “God”. Could this egalitarian behavior be another indicator that the Jaredites were a hunter-gatherer society? There are a lot of things that suggest the Adena were the Jaredites, but the biggest obstacle to making such an emphatic statement is the fact that we don’t have definite dates on when the Jaredites arrived in North America or when that final battle took place that wiped them out. While we are given some conflicting information about some of these relationships above (i.e. They said Joseph translated the engravings on the ancient plates that he obtained from the hill Cumorah--the same hill where the Jaredites and Nephites fought their final battles. Figure 4: Serpent Mound survey by Squire and Davis. The Assyrians were a warrior society where fighting was a part of life, and most famous for two—their deadly chariots and iron weapons. It’s not until they reach the promised land, settle a bit, and Jared and his brother are old and about to die that they finally decide it’s time to select a leader (Ether 6:18-24). The Book of Mormon Jaredite King List gives only 7 exact dates (lifespans and reigns) for the Jaredite Chronology. Perhaps this is why the brother of Jared was so surprised when he saw the Lord–because as a hunter-gatherer who may have worshiped stone pillars at the first temple in the world, he wasn’t expecting a God to be so fleshy or so man-like. Moroni introduces us to the Jaredites by saying, “And now I, Moroni, proceed to give an account of those ancient inhabitants who were destroyed by the hand of the Lord upon the face of this north country”- a geographic area within Mesoamerica (Ether 1:1) The people Moroni alludes to left their original homeland about 2650 B.C. T oward the end of the sixth century BC, during the period of harsh Assyrian rule the Phoenicians in the east fell completely under their control. They remind me of books that came out around the time of The DiVinci Code – like The Hiram Key – that would start with an assumption and then attempt to cram every possible event they could think of from the past to “support” their hypothesis. That would be consistent behavior had they come from Gobekli Tepe. Joseph Smith once wrote that the Jaredites “traveled they know not where, but at length arrived in the country of Aztalan [Wisconsin], of the lake country of America.” Because of this, some have suggested that the Jaredites came to America through the St. Lawrence River and then into the Great Lakes. The Great Serpent Mound is a 1,370ft long prehistoric effigy mound located near Peebles that has been thoroughly researched by Ross Hamilton, who has written extensively about its mysteries and the giants discovered in the area. While this may be hard given our prevailing paradigm, it may be exactly what we need to reconcile science and scripture and the words of Joseph Smith. Notice that the Jaredites had to first “gather” their flocks and “the seed of the earth”, and had to set traps to “catch fowls” and fish, “and all manner of that which was upon the face of the land” before they could begin their journey, perhaps suggesting they were in a transition phase between hunter-gatherer and farmer (Ether 1:41, 2:1-3). “Jaredites” are descendants of Jared, not descendants of his brother or the friends who came with them. Gobekli Tepe, if you remember, is also in Turkey. Right? And indeed, Urfa is about 8 miles from Gobekli Tepe. 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